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For principals, it can be lonely at the top. So it’s always a relief to hear from educators who have been there, done that, and are doing more to advance their leadership. Join us as we discuss best practices, innovative strategies, and pressing topics for today’s pre-K–8 principal with fellow principals and special guests from the education community.
This podcast is sponsored by the National Association of Elementary School Principals (NAESP). For more information, visit www.naesp.org.
Episodes

Jul 31, 2026
Jul 31, 2026
38 min
In today’s episode, Liz Garden and Scott McLeod from NAESP’s Center for Innovative Leadership talk with Eric Sheninger about what innovation really means in schools—and how leaders can challenge conventional thinking without simply adding more to anyone’s plate. From purposeful technology use to deeper learning, calculated risks, and small shifts in practice, this conversation explores how principals can help schools move beyond buzzwords and focus on what actually improves learning.
Eric Sheninger is an author, speaker, and former teacher and award-winning principal. He is the founder and CEO of Aspire Change EDU.
Liz Garden is principal of Henry P. Clough Elementary school in Mendon Massachusetts, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.
Scott McLeod is professor of educational leadership at the University of Colorado, Denver, and a fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

Jul 29, 2026
Jul 29, 2026
20 min
In today’s episode, Kim Taylor and Julie Bloss from NAESP’s Center for Early Learning Leadership talk with Jillayne Flanders and Dr. Orinthia Harris about how school leaders can begin conversations about empathy, equity, belonging, and anti-racism with young learners, staff, and families. From leading with heart to helping children see themselves represented, this conversation explores practical ways school leaders can support belonging in early learning communities.
Jillayne Flanders is an author, educational consultant, and former elementary principal.
Dr. Orinthia Harris is a former early childhood educator and founder & CEO of STEMearly LLC.
Julie Bloss, a retired principal, is fellow at the NAESP Center for Early Learning Leadership.
Kim Taylor is principal of F.X. O’Regan Early Childhood Development Center in Franklin, Massachusetts, and fellow at the NAESP Center for Early Learning Leadership.

Jul 3, 2026
Jul 3, 2026
29 min
In today’s episode, "Home Visits and the Power of Personal Connection," Andy Jacks talks with veteran principal Matt Moyer about building stronger relationships with students and families—and creating a school culture where every child feels seen and valued.
Matt Moyer is principal of Rupert Elementary School in Pottstown, Pennsylvania, and a member of the 2020 class of NAESP National Distinguished Principals®.
Andy Jacks, Ed.D. is principal at Ellis Elementary School in Manassas, Virginia, and senior fellow at the NAESP Centers for Advancing Leadership.

May 20, 2026
May 20, 2026
20 min
Every year, extraordinary school leaders from across the country are recognized through the NAESP National Distinguished Principal® program, and come together in Washington D.C. to meet each other and share their stories.. In this special episode of the podcast, we've curated a selection of their speeches to highlight the exceptional work they do in their schools. We invite you to listen as they share what has shaped their professional lives, and the various ways they support their school communities.

Feb 6, 2026
Feb 6, 2026
30 min
In today’s episode, hosts Liz Garden and Dr. Scott McLeod talk with Dr. Kristan Rodriguez about what it takes to create schools where every learner can succeed. From understanding student variability and building systems that work to shifting from compliance to authentic engagement, this conversation explores practical strategies for implementing Universal Design for Learning in your school.
Dr. Kristan Rodriguez is the owner of Commonwealth Consulting Agency, LLC and has been a professional development provider for over 20 years.
Liz Garden is principal of Henry P. Clough Elementary school in Mendon Massachusetts, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.
Scott McLeod is professor of educational leadership at the University of Colorado, Denver, and a fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

Jan 14, 2026
Jan 14, 2026
24 min
Today’s episode explores what new leaders need to know about managing change. Assistant principal Donna McGuire talks with Dr. Dallas Lee about leading with clarity, slowing down under pressure, and building trust when everyone is watching.
Dallas Lee, Ed.D. serves as instructional superintendent at the District of Columbia Public School system.
Donna McGuire is assistant principal PS/IS 18 – The Park Terrace School in New York City, and serves as moderator of the NAESP Assistant Principal Community of Practice.

Dec 5, 2025
Dec 5, 2025
23 min
In today’s episode, host Equetta Jones talks with Ashley Farrington and Dr. Jerod Phillips Sr. about how school leaders build the relationships and support systems that help them grow from assistant principal to principal—and thrive once they get there. This conversation explores how connection can turn leadership from isolating to inspiring.
Ashley Farrington is principal of Birchview Elementary School in Plymouth, Minnesota, 2020 NAESP National Outstanding Assistant Principal, 2025 NAESP National Distinguished Principal, and president-elect of the Minnesota Elementary School Principals’ Association.
Dr. Jerod Phillips Sr. is principal of David E. Robinson Elementary in Magnolia, Delaware, and a 2021 NAESP National Outstanding Assistant Principal.
Equetta Jones is principal of Lovecreek Elementary School in Lewes, Delaware, 2020 NAESP National Outstanding Assistant Principal, and moderator for NAESP’s Early Career Principal Community of Practice.

Nov 20, 2025
Nov 20, 2025
24 min
Originally released 12/14/23:
We know that a great school leader can have a powerful impact on the success of a school and its students. But how exactly do we get great principals? We sat down with Dr. Linda Darling-Hammond to discuss the latest research on developing effective principals, and how policymakers, districts, and educators can ensure school leaders have what they need to grow and thrive.
Dr. Linda Darling-Hammond is President and CEO of the Learning Policy Institute. She is also the Charles E. Ducommun Professor of Education Emeritus at Stanford University where she founded the Stanford Center for Opportunity Policy in Education and served as the faculty sponsor of the Stanford Teacher Education Program, which she helped to redesign.
Liz Garden is principal of Henry P. Clough Elementary school in Mendon Massachusetts, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.
Dr. Scott McLeod is professor of educational leadership at the University of Colorado, Denver, and a fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.
The NAESP Principal Podcast is produced by the National Association of Elementary School Principals. Learn more about our community and membership at naesp.org.

Oct 31, 2025
Oct 31, 2025
32 min
We talk with educator and innovator Katie Fielding about how principals can help teachers and students use AI safely, creatively, and ethically. From setting clear expectations to helping students think critically about new tools, we explore how principals can build a culture of curiosity and responsibility around technology.
Katie Fielding is an educational technology consultant and advocate for accessibility who holds advanced credentials from ISTE and CAST.
Liz Garden is principal of Henry P. Clough Elementary school in Mendon Massachusetts, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.
Scott McLeod is professor of educational leadership at the University of Colorado, Denver, and a fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

Oct 16, 2025
Oct 16, 2025
20 min
In today’s episode, Dr. Sharon Porter talks with Katy Kennedy and David Griffith about why regulation is at the heart of every student’s success. They discuss how schools can better support students and staff—through counseling, co-regulation, and policy changes—while modeling the practices we want children to learn.
Katy Kennedy is principal of Washington Middle School in Glendive, Montana, and fellow at the NAESP Center for Middle-Level Leadership.
David Griffith is Associate Executive Director of Policy and Advocacy at NAESP.
Sharon Porter is principal of Allenwood Elementary School in Temple Hills, Maryland, and fellow at the NAESP Center for Diversity Leadership.
